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Game Balance


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Post Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:09 am

Game Balance

The thing is, there's never been a proper discussion about balance in the mod. Sure, some people left balance related messages here and there, I also went and took balance ideas from other mods, the Fan Patch, the ESOC patch, that huge balancing thread on the Heaven forum (http://aoe3.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=st&fn=1&tn=32767&f=1,,,10&st=550), because let's be honest, you would be mad to ignore them. But some of those ideas didn't fit with my mod, for example I still ended up balancing the Dutch how I thought fit for the mod.

But is my way really better? This is what we need to discuss. I have a friend who helps me out with balancing but he has many ideas and, the truth is that an entire game cannot be balanced by just one man, as different people have different opinions about what is fair and balanced and what is not.

So, in the hope that people will be interested in helping out, I made this thread.

Here are some of my friend's ideas about what needs changing and I want you guys to give your opinion as well:


“Dutch east india company card “ : Change it for give -20 % food and wood cost of banks instead of -15 % and it will be ok


Russian “Boyard” : this card should be nerfed, the bonus should be at 10 % instead of 15 %. It is a very strong card that provide HP and attack in age 2


German “long range infantry hitpoints” : You should increase the amout of HP this card give (only +15 % HP for an age 4 card is poor), so I though of +20 % HP.

German “Lippizaner cavalry” : This should be increased too, it only provide +15 % HP and attack for 1 unit. It should be raised to +20 %.


Japanese “sword saint” : The values of the increase cost should be reduced (so instead of +10% food and coin cost it should be at +7 %)

Japanese “Hand infantry attack” : on the other hand this card should be nerfed, instead of +20 % attack for samurai and sohei it should only give +15 %

Japanese “way of the bow” : The HP bonus should be reduced from +15 % to +10 % (Its a little too powerfull in his current state, thats why I propose this nerf)

Japanese “close combat” : Same as above, the HP bonus should be reduced to +10 %

Japanese “Yabusame attack” : That card need to be buffed, so instead of +20 % it should give +25 % more attack (I ask for +5 % more)

Japanese “In-yo rush” : This card should be nerfed a little, it should only give +15 % more attack instead of +20 %

Japanese “Flaming arrow hitpoints” : It should give +25 % hitpoint (instead of 20 %)
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Post Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:36 pm

Re: Game Balance

I think the Dutch Fencibles should be removed. It makes the Dutch too stong IMO.
The Card Germantown Farmers should be moved from Age III to Age II because in Age III you normally so many settlers that the settlerwagons become obsolete.
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Post Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:58 pm

Re: Game Balance

Fencibles? Yes well, they were too strong but I nerfed them several times. The thing is, I had someone complain all the time how Dutch suck because of their low villager population and dependence of bank cards so I tried to buff them, thus the Fencible. They also had too few unique units so, again, Fencible.
If they need more nerfing please say so and explain what and why for every suggestion.

As for Settlers Wagons, I mean, they are still the best villagers in the game so I think you should leave some room for them. But I will consider it.

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Post Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:55 am

Congratulations for the mod , positive criticism, questions

the way it is for me looks good ,good mod has greatly improved the game, as units are excelent including flatbowman ( creative thought ) and Dutch Fencibles (for the Dutch infantry are too weak
compared with that of other people ) .
and arabic Maghrabi can be hired ?
I can not find them to train ( quite liked them!)
is a tip of a civilization , Saracens or Arabs ( of the same )
the next civilization will be Swedish ?
very good mod congratulations !
Sorry my bad english, i'm brasilian,rssrsrs

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